You get used to the batshit pretty quick, Romanov.
I regret nothing.
Had to. After reading one too many (3 actually) sycophant posts of how “Howard loved Tony and left him Stark Industries as his legacy because he loved him so damn much….”. and the ‘comic fans’ are elitist and have it all wrong. No. Just, no.
Howard “created” Tony purely as an heir to carry on “Howard’s” work. Tony created his own damn legacy with iron Man, fuck you very much.
The only ‘legacy” Howard left Tony was a trunk full of memories of childhood abuse and an alcohol addiction that stemmed right from Howard’s ‘loving’ hands.
I think it also says something, considering everything horrific that Tony’s been through/seen/done in the comics to this point that one of his worst nightmares, (really only on par with the post-Civil War ones where Steve is dead,) revolve around what would happen if he fell off the wagon and started drinking again.
(Disregarding fucking Fraction and what happened in Fear Itself here, for obvious reasons labelled under the heading of ‘bullshit writing’).
And really, who in fucking hell thinks a parent who forces their child to drink hard liquor is a loving parent? I know for the sake of The Big Mouse and a PG-13 rating they skirted rather neatly around the whole ‘abusive fucking bastard’ issue, but there’s more than a mountain of implications in IM1 and 2, (which are generally the result of Robert’s brilliant acting,) that leave no doubt in my mind at least, that movie-Tony and 616-Tony share if not the same back story, then pretty fucking close.
Howard Stark was an abusive dickface of a parent, and I get all twitchy when people try and defend him.
Agreed. Not mention that in the movie Tony says:
“My father never told me he loved me, never even said he liked me”.
If your kid reaches the age of 17 and you haven’t told him you love him, you cannot be seen as father of the fucking year. That and you send him to boarding school when he’s 7! The fuck is wrong with you Howard?! Oh, that’s right, Tony never was born to be loved, he was ‘created’ to further your name and be your ocasional punching bag and nothing, absolutely nothing else.
“My greatest creation..is you”
How drunk was Howard when he decided to say this to Tony? We see him drinking in frames prior to the speech. What motivated him to say it? Did he have some kind of foreshadowing event that caused him to know he wouldn’t be around later in Tony’s life? Or did he just know the technology he needed to complete the work himself wouldn’t be available until after his death?
Nothing and no-one will make me believe he did it out of the kindness of his heart and look at Tony’s body language here, he isn’t buying it either. His arms are wrapped around himself in the most obvious expression of self protection and he looks skeptical at best. Look at Tony is the first frame. He isn’t expecting anything from Howard in this reel and why should he? He never heard from his father when he was alive that he loved him, why on earth would he expect it now. We are supposed to believe that same man who just yelled at his kid not a few frames earlier to get out, is now all over him and declaring him the best thing he ever created?
No. Howard is worried only about his company and his legacy. He wants to motivate Tony to continue his work. And how exactly does that make Tony feel? He spent the better part of his life trying to get his father to pay attention to him. Granted he acted out, but any kind of attention, be it bad or good is attention when you are starved for it. Tony not only has to wait twenty years to hear that he is worth something to his father, not that his father loves him but that he is a creation, but he has to sit through watching his father react negatively to him being present in the room first. Kind of takes the glow off the whole father son speech doesn’t it when you watch your father yell at you first before he equates you with something he whipped up in his lab?
I’ve seen posts where people say the look on Tony’s face after Howard calls him his greatest creation is heartbreaking. What I find heartbreaking is the look on his face and his entire demeanor in the lead up to that. From watching his father call for him to be removed to watching him be an ass and his drinking. All of the empty promises and declarations in the world don’t take away from the fact that this side of Howard, his drinking and belittling and ignoring his son is what Tony is not only watching but lived through. That isn’t some random child on the screen that is Tony as a child. Those first few scenes on the reel were his life, the father he grew up with and the encapsulation of his entire childhood. That is heartbreaking.
TONY STARK DOES SCIENCE
You know we can take that statement two seperate ways, right…?
Tony Stark DOES Science…
“Oh Einstein’s Theory of Relativity you naughty chemical reaction…”
There are two types of people and I agree with the second one…